Morning Karl. I'm okay thanks, had a stressful week with car issues but hopefully will be sorted out this week.. I wouldn't even attempt to use a urinal, few reasons but the main one being I always have to pat dry after urinating so always use a cubical, which sometimes (more often than not) there is only one of in male toilets. I would dribble a little after if I didn't pat dry. I do try and hold on as long as possible, it depends on the situation really or I try and go a little earlier than I might need to, even though I may not always have a full bladder. Example: we go to York Races a couple of times a year. It's just over an hour away from where I live. I usually get picked up about 10 ish. If I left going for a wee till just before I leave then this is when I know I would struggle to go, I try and plan and not go when I first get up, have my coffee and then maybe go a good half an hour before I get picked up, it doesn't always work and I still struggle but I keep telling myself I have plenty of time before I get picked up and usually after 4 or 5 minutes of trying I will go. There is a service station we usually stop at and I know I can go there but from past experiences when I have gone and tried I can't go, just the pressure of knowing someone is waiting for me and then I start to worry about what they are thinking "why am I taking so long" etc. There are two cubicles here as well! Similarly, when are coming home from the races I know roughly what time we are leaving so rather than waiting and going on the way out (like my family members would do) I'll purposely try and hold on and then maybe go before the last race so I know I won't be under any pressure compared to if I left it and went just as we are leaving. The main place / situation is when flying - just the build up. Even from leaving home - I stay at my parents and we usually get picked really early and it's always a bit hectic, we get picked up then go and pick my brother and family up. I try and go as soon as I get up and not leave it till just before we leave, this usually works. Same at the airport I try and go in good time before we are boarding. On the plane is always a nightmare for me and this is probably when been able to self catheterise would help. I really struggled on the return flight home this year (we always go at Easter so it's normally a longer flight unfortunately - I can probably mange not been able to go on a two hour flight). It wasn't a good flight for turbulence which makes peeing harder at the best of times. I'd already had one failed attempt and then tried again, I was probably stood trying for at least 5 minutes, with the pressure of knowing other people were waiting and worrying about the turbulence getting bad again and the seatbelt sign coming back on. I eventually started spraying a little and was really trying hard to maintain even just a dribble, however because I was spraying I ended up wetting myself, fortunately not noticeable when I left the toilet. But still an unpleasant / embarrassing situation. Thankfully on the journey home as I was wearing the only pair of trousers I had taken on holiday! Thanks for sharing your experiences Karl. Where abouts do you live? Take care.